Re: [free-software-melb] Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
So, in plain English if I buy a PC under this scheme even if it is blank with no OS from a shop I will only be able to install Windows on it and not any other OS either alone or dual boot? Sounds worse than China's Green Dam internet censorship. Andrew On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:00 PM, < free-software-melb-request@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> wrote:
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1. Re: Output of SFD workshop: code sharing (Ben Sturmfels) 2. Re: Output of SFD workshop: code sharing (Patrick Sunter) 3. Re: Output of SFD workshop: code sharing (Alexander) 4. Microsoft requires Windows 8 logo systems to not boot unsigned OS's (Chris Samuel) 5. Re: Microsoft requires Windows 8 logo systems to not boot unsigned OS's (George Patterson) 6. Re: Microsoft requires Windows 8 logo systems to not boot unsigned OS's (Dennis K)
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:49:36 +1000 From: Ben Sturmfels <ben@stumbles.id.au> To: Alex Fraser <alex@phatcore.com> Cc: Melbourne Free Software Interest Group <free-software-melb@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] Output of SFD workshop: code sharing Message-ID: <4E7942B0.7060709@stumbles.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi Alex,
I've typed up the notes from the code sharing workshop at Software Freedom Day:
http://wiki.freesoftware.asn.au/contributingAtWork
(I don't have Minh or Glenn's contact details though.)
Cheers, Ben
Hi Lev et al,
Thanks for a great Software Freedom Day!
The discussion in the Code Sharing workshop revolved around how to share code in a corporate setting. Occasionally the discussion drifted to encouraging the general adoption of FOSS, but we always came back to the topic of development. We identified a need for a set of arguments in favour of code contributions that could be presented to an employer or client, and then discussed what those arguments should be. We also identified a need for a generic FOSS contribution clause that can be included in client agreements.
== Action Items == 1. Rodney B: Search for an existing guide (page listing similar arguments), by the 1st of October. 2. Ben S, Glenn M: Use our notes to contribute to the guide found in 1. or start a new page at wiki.freesoftware.asn.au, by the 1st of November. 3. Alex F, Minh N: Look in to crowd funding options (e.g. Kickstarter) to pay for legal work (which may be carried out by Brendan Scott), by the 1st of November.
That's as far as we got, but presumably more actions will stem from
On 09/17/2011 06:48 PM, Alex Fraser wrote: those.
Thanks again, Alex
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:00:51 +1000 From: Patrick Sunter <patdevelop@gmail.com> To: Melbourne Free Software Interest Group <free-software-melb@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] Output of SFD workshop: code sharing Message-ID: <CALOKYXVuRFiVkyGGuuCrk4O3zOO6bwXxFyRq4pgiJUmfoQMqww@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Ben Sturmfels <ben@stumbles.id.au> wrote:
Hi Alex,
I've typed up the notes from the code sharing workshop at Software Freedom Day:
http://wiki.freesoftware.asn.au/contributingAtWork
(I don't have Minh or Glenn's contact details though.)
On this subject I recently came across the free culture book Producing Open Source software, by Karl Fogel (one of the lead devs of the Subversion RCS): http://producingoss.com/
I recommend it in general for FOSS development, he also has some things to say about contributions from commercial organisations, such as http://producingoss.com/en/money-vs-love.html .
Perhaps a 'references' section on that Wiki page would be good for this?
-- Pat.
Cheers, Ben
On 09/17/2011 06:48 PM, Alex Fraser wrote:
Hi Lev et al,
Thanks for a great Software Freedom Day!
The discussion in the Code Sharing workshop revolved around how to share code in a corporate setting. Occasionally the discussion drifted to encouraging the general adoption of FOSS, but we always came back to the topic of development. We identified a need for a set of arguments in favour of code contributions that could be presented to an employer or client, and then discussed what those arguments should be. We also identified a need for a generic FOSS contribution clause that can be included in client agreements.
== Action Items == ?1. Rodney B: Search for an existing guide (page listing similar arguments), by the 1st of October. ?2. Ben S, Glenn M: Use our notes to contribute to the guide found in 1. or start a new page at wiki.freesoftware.asn.au, by the 1st of November. ?3. Alex F, Minh N: Look in to crowd funding options (e.g. Kickstarter) to pay for legal work (which may be carried out by Brendan Scott), by the 1st of November.
That's as far as we got, but presumably more actions will stem from
those.
Thanks again, Alex
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Message: 3 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:41:54 +1000 From: Alexander <alex@clockworkpc.com.au> To: Melbourne Free Software Interest Group <free-software-melb@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] Output of SFD workshop: code sharing Message-ID: <CAL1-YVPvitYsoRhfjk3wVGVp4+WHtS7xe74QdyzFm9xvMkctQg@mail.gmail.com
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Hi Ben,
Hi Alex,
I've typed up the notes from the code sharing workshop at Software Freedom Day:
http://wiki.freesoftware.asn.au/contributingAtWork
(I don't have Minh or Glenn's contact details though.)
Cheers, Ben
On 09/17/2011 06:48 PM, Alex Fraser wrote:
Hi Lev et al,
Thanks for a great Software Freedom Day!
The discussion in the Code Sharing workshop revolved around how to share code in a corporate setting. Occasionally the discussion drifted to encouraging the general adoption of FOSS, but we always came back to the topic of development. We identified a need for a set of arguments in favour of code contributions that could be presented to an employer or client, and then discussed what those arguments should be. We also identified a need for a generic FOSS contribution clause that can be included in client agreements.
== Action Items == 1. Rodney B: Search for an existing guide (page listing similar arguments), by the 1st of October. 2. Ben S, Glenn M: Use our notes to contribute to the guide found in 1. or start a new page at wiki.freesoftware.asn.au, by the 1st of November. 3. Alex F, Minh N: Look in to crowd funding options (e.g. Kickstarter) to pay for legal work (which may be carried out by Brendan Scott), by the 1st of November.
That's as far as we got, but presumably more actions will stem from
Thanks. On Sep 21, 2011 11:50 AM, "Ben Sturmfels" <ben@stumbles.id.au> wrote: those.
Thanks again, Alex
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:20:51 +1000 John Thornton <secretelf77@gmail.com> wrote:
So, in plain English if I buy a PC under this scheme even if it is blank with no OS from a shop I will only be able to install Windows on it and not any other OS either alone or dual boot?
No - *if* you can find a PC without OS, then presumably it also does not have a Windows 8 Logo, so presumably its not locked down, that is *if* you can buy a PC with no OS in Australia. As a matter of fact, there may well be an opportunity here for a OS free PC's to become more available and for the awareness for them to become much higher in the Community. Note that today, by far most Linux users have bought a PC/Laptop with Windows on it knowing that they will install Linux on it. So it did not matter if it had Windows, although they would have preferred if it did not. But if PCs are now locked down to Windows, there will be more urge for potential Linux users to demand OS free PC's. So if properly "managed" by the Linux Community this may well be a blessing in disguise for Linux. I also think that there are already too many Linux users that no manufacturer will be able to provide unlocked mother board to build OS free equipment from. Remember the Windows only printers and modems - they did not last very long, admittedly PCs are a different thing. Daniel.
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