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Re: [free-software-melb] Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
by John Thornton 21 Sep '11

21 Sep '11

So, in plain English if I buy a PC under this scheme even if it is blank with no OS from a shop I will only be able to install Windows on it and not any other OS either alone or dual boot? Sounds worse than China's Green Dam internet censorship. Andrew On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:00 PM, < free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> wrote: > Send Free-software-melb mailing list submissions to > free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > free-software-melb-owner(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Free-software-melb digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Output of SFD workshop: code sharing (Ben Sturmfels) > 2. Re: Output of SFD workshop: code sharing (Patrick Sunter) > 3. Re: Output of SFD workshop: code sharing (Alexander) > 4. Microsoft requires Windows 8 logo systems to not boot > unsigned OS's (Chris Samuel) > 5. Re: Microsoft requires Windows 8 logo systems to not boot > unsigned OS's (George Patterson) > 6. Re: Microsoft requires Windows 8 logo systems to not boot > unsigned OS's (Dennis K) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:49:36 +1000 > From: Ben Sturmfels <ben(a)stumbles.id.au> > To: Alex Fraser <alex(a)phatcore.com> > Cc: Melbourne Free Software Interest Group > <free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> > Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] Output of SFD workshop: code sharing > Message-ID: <4E7942B0.7060709(a)stumbles.id.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Alex, > > I've typed up the notes from the code sharing workshop at Software > Freedom Day: > > http://wiki.freesoftware.asn.au/contributingAtWork > > (I don't have Minh or Glenn's contact details though.) > > Cheers, > Ben > > On 09/17/2011 06:48 PM, Alex Fraser wrote: > > Hi Lev et al, > > > > Thanks for a great Software Freedom Day! > > > > The discussion in the Code Sharing workshop revolved around how to > > share code in a corporate setting. Occasionally the discussion drifted > > to encouraging the general adoption of FOSS, but we always came back > > to the topic of development. We identified a need for a set of > > arguments in favour of code contributions that could be presented to > > an employer or client, and then discussed what those arguments should > > be. We also identified a need for a generic FOSS contribution clause > > that can be included in client agreements. > > > > == Action Items == > > 1. Rodney B: Search for an existing guide (page listing similar > > arguments), by the 1st of October. > > 2. Ben S, Glenn M: Use our notes to contribute to the guide found in > > 1. or start a new page at wiki.freesoftware.asn.au, by the 1st of > > November. > > 3. Alex F, Minh N: Look in to crowd funding options (e.g. > > Kickstarter) to pay for legal work (which may be carried out by > > Brendan Scott), by the 1st of November. > > > > That's as far as we got, but presumably more actions will stem from > those. > > > > Thanks again, > > Alex > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:00:51 +1000 > From: Patrick Sunter <patdevelop(a)gmail.com> > To: Melbourne Free Software Interest Group > <free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> > Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] Output of SFD workshop: code sharing > Message-ID: > <CALOKYXVuRFiVkyGGuuCrk4O3zOO6bwXxFyRq4pgiJUmfoQMqww(a)mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Ben Sturmfels <ben(a)stumbles.id.au> > wrote: > > Hi Alex, > > > > I've typed up the notes from the code sharing workshop at Software > Freedom > > Day: > > > > http://wiki.freesoftware.asn.au/contributingAtWork > > > > (I don't have Minh or Glenn's contact details though.) > > > > On this subject I recently came across the free culture book Producing > Open Source software, by Karl Fogel (one of the lead devs of the > Subversion RCS): http://producingoss.com/ > > I recommend it in general for FOSS development, he also has some > things to say about contributions from commercial organisations, such > as http://producingoss.com/en/money-vs-love.html . > > Perhaps a 'references' section on that Wiki page would be good for this? > > -- Pat. > > > Cheers, > > Ben > > > > On 09/17/2011 06:48 PM, Alex Fraser wrote: > >> > >> Hi Lev et al, > >> > >> Thanks for a great Software Freedom Day! > >> > >> The discussion in the Code Sharing workshop revolved around how to > >> share code in a corporate setting. Occasionally the discussion drifted > >> to encouraging the general adoption of FOSS, but we always came back > >> to the topic of development. We identified a need for a set of > >> arguments in favour of code contributions that could be presented to > >> an employer or client, and then discussed what those arguments should > >> be. We also identified a need for a generic FOSS contribution clause > >> that can be included in client agreements. > >> > >> == Action Items == > >> ?1. Rodney B: Search for an existing guide (page listing similar > >> arguments), by the 1st of October. > >> ?2. Ben S, Glenn M: Use our notes to contribute to the guide found in > >> 1. or start a new page at wiki.freesoftware.asn.au, by the 1st of > >> November. > >> ?3. Alex F, Minh N: Look in to crowd funding options (e.g. > >> Kickstarter) to pay for legal work (which may be carried out by > >> Brendan Scott), by the 1st of November. > >> > >> That's as far as we got, but presumably more actions will stem from > those. > >> > >> Thanks again, > >> Alex > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Free-software-melb mailing list > > Free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:41:54 +1000 > From: Alexander <alex(a)clockworkpc.com.au> > To: Melbourne Free Software Interest Group > <free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> > Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] Output of SFD workshop: code sharing > Message-ID: > <CAL1-YVPvitYsoRhfjk3wVGVp4+WHtS7xe74QdyzFm9xvMkctQg(a)mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Ben, > > Thanks. > On Sep 21, 2011 11:50 AM, "Ben Sturmfels" <ben(a)stumbles.id.au> wrote: > > Hi Alex, > > > > I've typed up the notes from the code sharing workshop at Software > > Freedom Day: > > > > http://wiki.freesoftware.asn.au/contributingAtWork > > > > (I don't have Minh or Glenn's contact details though.) > > > > Cheers, > > Ben > > > > On 09/17/2011 06:48 PM, Alex Fraser wrote: > >> Hi Lev et al, > >> > >> Thanks for a great Software Freedom Day! > >> > >> The discussion in the Code Sharing workshop revolved around how to > >> share code in a corporate setting. Occasionally the discussion drifted > >> to encouraging the general adoption of FOSS, but we always came back > >> to the topic of development. We identified a need for a set of > >> arguments in favour of code contributions that could be presented to > >> an employer or client, and then discussed what those arguments should > >> be. We also identified a need for a generic FOSS contribution clause > >> that can be included in client agreements. > >> > >> == Action Items == > >> 1. Rodney B: Search for an existing guide (page listing similar > >> arguments), by the 1st of October. > >> 2. Ben S, Glenn M: Use our notes to contribute to the guide found in > >> 1. or start a new page at wiki.freesoftware.asn.au, by the 1st of > >> November. > >> 3. Alex F, Minh N: Look in to crowd funding options (e.g. > >> Kickstarter) to pay for legal work (which may be carried out by > >> Brendan Scott), by the 1st of November. > >> > >> That's as far as we got, but presumably more actions will stem from > those. > >> > >> Thanks again, > >> Alex > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Free-software-melb mailing list > > Free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb >

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Re: [free-software-melb] Output of SFD workshop: code sharing
by Ben Sturmfels 21 Sep '11

21 Sep '11

Hi Alex, I've typed up the notes from the code sharing workshop at Software Freedom Day: http://wiki.freesoftware.asn.au/contributingAtWork (I don't have Minh or Glenn's contact details though.) Cheers, Ben On 09/17/2011 06:48 PM, Alex Fraser wrote: > Hi Lev et al, > > Thanks for a great Software Freedom Day! > > The discussion in the Code Sharing workshop revolved around how to > share code in a corporate setting. Occasionally the discussion drifted > to encouraging the general adoption of FOSS, but we always came back > to the topic of development. We identified a need for a set of > arguments in favour of code contributions that could be presented to > an employer or client, and then discussed what those arguments should > be. We also identified a need for a generic FOSS contribution clause > that can be included in client agreements. > > == Action Items == > 1. Rodney B: Search for an existing guide (page listing similar > arguments), by the 1st of October. > 2. Ben S, Glenn M: Use our notes to contribute to the guide found in > 1. or start a new page at wiki.freesoftware.asn.au, by the 1st of > November. > 3. Alex F, Minh N: Look in to crowd funding options (e.g. > Kickstarter) to pay for legal work (which may be carried out by > Brendan Scott), by the 1st of November. > > That's as far as we got, but presumably more actions will stem from those. > > Thanks again, > Alex

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Re: [free-software-melb] Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 13, Issue 5
by John Thornton 16 Sep '11

16 Sep '11

Is there any chance of me being able to give a talk.workshop/demo?? Linux distro survey. I give a survey of about 10 linux distros and say what each is good for. Then I hand out free CDs of some. I might not have a clue what GIT is. But I have spent a lot of time playing with linux distributions: puppy, backtrack, artistx, debian, ubuntu, ultimate, linuxgamers, fedora, knoppix...to name a few. If I can't give a talk/workshop of this type then can there be a talk "what is wrong with free software as a community?" and I will answer "the same clique of people with computer science degrees do the same thing all the time and people like me don't get a look in". Just because I do not have a degree in computer science does not mean that I don't know about linux and computers. John On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:00 PM, < free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> wrote: > Send Free-software-melb mailing list submissions to > free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > free-software-melb-owner(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Free-software-melb digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fwd: Software Freedom Day: Free as in lunch with open sauce, > Saturday 17 Sept (Ben Sturmfels) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:21:44 +1000 > From: Ben Sturmfels <ben(a)stumbles.id.au> > To: Melbourne Free Software Interest Group > <free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> > Subject: [free-software-melb] Fwd: Software Freedom Day: Free as in > lunch with open sauce, Saturday 17 Sept > Message-ID: <4E728888.3090705(a)stumbles.id.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Sorry for the late notice, but here's the info on Software Freedom Day > tomorrow: > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [luv-announce] Software Freedom Day: Free as in lunch with > open sauce > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 23:10:38 +1000 > From: lev(a)levlafayette.com > To: luv-announce(a)lists.luv.asn.au > > Software Freedom Day, Saturday September 17. 2011 > > The Hub, 80 Harbour Esplanade, Docklands. > > 12 noon: Free as in lunch with open sauce > > Come join us for a BBQ (meat and vegetarian sausages, onion, sauce and > bread provided - byo drinks and salad) to celebrate Software Freedom Day. > > 1.30 Keynote - Ben Sturmfels, Why Free Software Matters > > 2.30 Workshops - Planning for Freedom in the Coming Year > a. Tony Forster, International Development with Free Software. > b. Alex Garber, Introducing Newcomers to Free Software > c. Alex Fraser, Code Sharing: A Programmer's Perspective > d. Daniel Jitnah, Free Software and Accessibility > e. Kathy Reid, Building Free and Open Source Communities > f. Lev Lafayette, Teaching Free and Open Source Computing > > > Drupal Melbourne will be running a stall and opportunity to discuss using > that free and open source content-management framework. Plus we'll have a > range of Linux distributions and various free software available to > interested parties. > > > _______________________________________________ > luv-announce mailing list > luv-announce(a)lists.luv.asn.au > http://lists.luv.asn.au/listinfo/luv-announce > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Free-software-melb mailing list > Free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > > End of Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 13, Issue 5 > ************************************************* >

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Fwd: Software Freedom Day: Free as in lunch with open sauce, Saturday 17 Sept
by Ben Sturmfels 15 Sep '11

15 Sep '11

Sorry for the late notice, but here's the info on Software Freedom Day tomorrow: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [luv-announce] Software Freedom Day: Free as in lunch with open sauce Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 23:10:38 +1000 From: lev(a)levlafayette.com To: luv-announce(a)lists.luv.asn.au Software Freedom Day, Saturday September 17. 2011 The Hub, 80 Harbour Esplanade, Docklands. 12 noon: Free as in lunch with open sauce Come join us for a BBQ (meat and vegetarian sausages, onion, sauce and bread provided - byo drinks and salad) to celebrate Software Freedom Day. 1.30 Keynote - Ben Sturmfels, Why Free Software Matters 2.30 Workshops - Planning for Freedom in the Coming Year a. Tony Forster, International Development with Free Software. b. Alex Garber, Introducing Newcomers to Free Software c. Alex Fraser, Code Sharing: A Programmer's Perspective d. Daniel Jitnah, Free Software and Accessibility e. Kathy Reid, Building Free and Open Source Communities f. Lev Lafayette, Teaching Free and Open Source Computing Drupal Melbourne will be running a stall and opportunity to discuss using that free and open source content-management framework. Plus we'll have a range of Linux distributions and various free software available to interested parties. _______________________________________________ luv-announce mailing list luv-announce(a)lists.luv.asn.au http://lists.luv.asn.au/listinfo/luv-announce

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Free software discussion group this Thursday 15 September 6pm
by Ben Sturmfels 14 Sep '11

14 Sep '11

Hi Folks, We had a great turnout to last month's Free Software Discussion Group! I'm looking forward to seeing you again next Thursday. Please note the time change to 6pm. Melbourne Free Software Discussion Group Thursday 15 August, 6pm VPAC Head Office Training Room, Level 1 Building 91 110 Victoria Street Carlton South Map: http://www.vpac.org/about/contact Please arrive 10 mins early. Agenda ------ 1. Scope of this group 2. My favourite free software games (Ben Sturmfels) 3. A first free software patch (Alex Garber) 4. Software Freedom Day 17 September If anyone would like to do a short presentation, please let me know! :) Regards, Ben

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The GTA04 "Phoenix" - resurrecting OpenMoko ?
by Chris Samuel 11 Sep '11

11 Sep '11

Hi folks, I mentioned the GTA04 project to produce a replacement motherboard (along with new CPU, 3G, compass, etc) on Thursday night. Here's a link to the project.. http://www.gta04.org/ Here's a video showing one of the development test boards, how it fits into the case and demoing it booting into Debian and running LXDE. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KnJc7eImQ4 cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP

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Re: [free-software-melb] Free Software Discussion Group next Thurs 15 Sept
by Ben Sturmfels 09 Sep '11

09 Sep '11

Whoops, that reply to Les wasn't meant to go to the list. Sorry folks! Ben

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Free Software Discussion Group next Thurs 15 Sept
by Ben Sturmfels 09 Sep '11

09 Sep '11

Hi Les, Just got a bounce back from an email regarding this month's Free Software Discussion Group. You may want to add free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au to your filter exceptions. Catch you soon, Ben -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Uncaught bounce notification Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 03:31:17 +0000 From: mailman-bounces(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au To: free-software-melb-owner(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). For more information see: http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/admin/free-software-melb/bounce

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The International Free and Open Source Software Law Book
by Adrian Colomitchi 31 Aug '11

31 Aug '11

I know that's probably of a quite narrow/specialized interest, but maybe if it doesn't help it won't hurt to know about. https://www.opensourcepress.de/index.php?26&backPID=178&tt_products=322 "As legal systems differ throughout the world there are significant differences in how Free and Open Source Software licenses are treated in different countries, and it can be difficult to obtain reliable information on national interpretations. The International Free and Open Source Software Law Book engages with this by providing a clear yet thorough analysis of Free and Open Source legal matters written and maintained by local experts." Cheers, Adrian

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Free software discussion group tonight at VPAC
by Ben Sturmfels 18 Aug '11

18 Aug '11

Hi Folks, Just a quick reminder that free software discussion group is on tonight, Thurs 18 August at 6:30pm at VPAC (NOT the state library). Details here: http://www.softwarefreedom.com.au/free-software-melb/ Please try to arrive early so we can let you in. Cheers, Ben

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