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Video from Brett Smith's talk
by Ben Sturmfels 01 Apr '12

01 Apr '12

Hi Folks, I've just uploaded the video of Brett Smith's talk to our website: http://www.freesoftware.asn.au/2012/brett-smith-talk/ Thanks to Alex and Chris for recording the video. Despite technical problems problems, they managed to catch pretty well the entire talk between their two cameras. It was quite a bit of work to piece the talk back together, but well worth it I think. Regards, Ben

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Android photography
by Russell Coker 30 Mar '12

30 Mar '12

http://www.care2.com/causes/first-amendment-protected-cell-phone-recordings- of-police-are-legal.html The above article raises the issue of how to distribute photographs. If you take a photograph or a video of police doing something illegal then you need to send it out ASAP before the images are deleted and/or your phone is smashed. The usual way of sending pictures involves going to the picture viewer, selecting the picture, selecting that you want to send it, selecting the email or MMS program, entering an address, and then waiting. That's not going to be very useful when bad things are happening. What we need is a program that allows you to take pictures or video and just send them as fast as possible to a suitable server. For sending pictures email will do but you really don't want mail stored in the sent-mail folder (the default for K9 is to send the message twice, once by SMTP and once by IMAP). For sending video a protocol like FTP is necessary so that when a transfer is interupted you can still access whatever was sent. Good extra features would include the ability to scale down pictures and video for fast transmission, you get good quality if they don't smash your phone and low quality if nothing better survives. Also being able to send via Wifi would be a good feature, either a direct upload to a Wifi device that's not obvious (EG a tablet hidden under your car seat) or something like Serval. As an aside it would be an interesting experiment to see how many people can share photographs via Serval at an Occupy event before it gets overloaded. The Serval developers have always considered cases where a police or military organisation opposes users of their software. Serval is on f-droid, so it matches all aspects of freedom. Freedom from tyranny needs to involve Libre software, we just can't trust other software. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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Free Software Tablet
by Russell Coker 28 Mar '12

28 Mar '12

I am after a Tablet device that runs Free Software. It is to be used for web browsing, reading ebooks, and probably some games (as with all computers). For the games side of it I'm not too fussy as to the platform, Debian and Android both have enough games to satisfy - I have other devices for my favourite Debian and Android games. Everything can do web browsing and reading ebooks. So I really don't have a great preference of Debian or Android in that regard, it seems that they can both be made to work. I'm not going to use a locked down device, so most Android tablets are unsuitable due to being locked down or the fact that they simply lack a build of CyanogenMod or similar. I don't have time to compile everything myself but I am prepared to do a little development. As an aside it would be nice if I could just use some of my computers and not end up getting dragged into hacking on some software for every one of my devices. I'm guessing that touch support in Debian is a little lacking due to the fact that almost no-one uses it. Does anyone have any experience of tablets running Debian with touch screens? But the upside would be good support for a variety of other devices, so one of the netbooks with a detachable keyboard would be a good option. With Android there's all the pain of rooting it, modding it, trying not to brick it, and then not being able to upgrade just one part of the OS at a time. Really it's pretty poor that Android doesn't have a proper package management system. A decade ago I was running Familiar on iPaQ systems with 64M of RAM and 32M of storage and I could upgrade the OS one package at a time. There's no technical reason why an Android phone with 16G of storage and 512M of RAM can't run dpkg or similar. The most capable phones on the market now have more storage and RAM than the vast majority of Debian servers that I have ever run. In fact a good portion of the VPS instances I run now have no more storage or RAM than a high-end phone! -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

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CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2
by Jean Elchinger 25 Mar '12

25 Mar '12

Hi, I tried the whole weekend to flash CM 7, but each time the phone went in a reboot loop. If you got this reboot loop problem too, after trying to install CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2 the solution exists, read carefully this topic: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/38096-boot-loop-sollution/ Then I finally succeeded to install cm_galaxys2_full-116.zip and the update-cm-7.2.0-RC1-galaxys2-signed.zip Cheers, Jean

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Migrated mailing lists to new server
by Ben Sturmfels 25 Mar '12

25 Mar '12

Hi Folks, I've just migrated the Free Software Melbourne et al. mailing lists to a new server. Please email me directly if you notice any problems. Sorry if you received two copies of your daily digest --- I had both systems running together for a short time. Regards, Ben

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Re: [free-software-melb] Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11
by Jean Elchinger 24 Mar '12

24 Mar '12

Sorry, the server is up again, it was down the wall day. Now I'm able to get my file. On 24 March 2012 23:00, < free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> wrote: > Send Free-software-melb mailing list submissions to > free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > free-software-melb-owner(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Free-software-melb digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 6 (Jean Elchinger) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 07:19:42 +0100 > From: Jean Elchinger <jean.elchinger(a)gmail.com> > To: russell(a)coker.com.au, > free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, > Issue 6 > Message-ID: > <CAJGTsXeRtLHZYyUYbVcZWsFGt4W8oA_ibau8qfSOXTFCsvNb+Q(a)mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello, > > I am currently in the process to reinstall my Galaxy S2 with Cyanogenmod 7 > but I got a little problem. > I cannot download the file cm_galaxys2_full-116.zip from > http://download.cyanogenmod.com/get/cm_galaxys2_full-116.zip because of > the > following message : > > The website you are trying to access is currently offline. The most likely > causes are the server is down for maintenance, there may be a network > problem, or the site may be experiencing excessive load. > > Does anyone have this file and can send it to my through a sharing website > or a server? > cm_galaxys2_full-116.zip md5sum: f489da0398332a44487d515af5c48161 100.15 MB > 2011-11-16 13:44:43 > > I already flashed my phone with android 2.3.6 and rooted it succesfully > with heimdall on Ubuntu. But I don't want to use it until I've installed > Cyanogenmod 7. I already have the update file 7.1 and 7.2 RC. But without > the full.zip there are of no use as the phone is blocked in a loop of > booting and rebooting again. > > Thanks. > Jean > > On 12 March 2012 13:20, Russell Coker <russell(a)coker.com.au> wrote: > > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2012, Jean Elchinger <jean.elchinger(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks, that's great to know. For me, I'll prefer to wait for > > Cyanogenmod 9 > > > to be stable and then install it on my galaxy S2. > > > > Why wait? > > > > You really need to have your phone rooted right from the start. Without > > root > > access you can't do a full backup and therefore you don't want to do much > > with > > a phone before rooting it. > > > > So if you are rooting the phone then you might as well mod it at the same > > time. If nothing else the process of installing CGM 9 over CGM 7 is > > probably > > going to be better supported than installing CGM 9 over whatever your S2 > > currently has. > > > > -- > > My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ > > My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Free-software-melb mailing list > Free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > > End of Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 11 > ************************************************** >

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Re: [free-software-melb] Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 6
by Jean Elchinger 24 Mar '12

24 Mar '12

Thanks, that's great to know. For me, I'll prefer to wait for Cyanogenmod 9 to be stable and then install it on my galaxy S2. On 12 March 2012 23:00, < free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> wrote: > Send Free-software-melb mailing list submissions to > free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > free-software-melb-owner(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Free-software-melb digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 5 (Jean Elchinger) > 2. Re: Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 5 (Russell Coker) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:37:22 +1100 > From: Jean Elchinger <jean.elchinger(a)gmail.com> > To: free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, > Issue 5 > Message-ID: > <CAJGTsXc_FAfhAJoXz1qfB=t8SZJzG-uY4Vxv8a-QQjNZ2EPtzA(a)mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello, > > F-Droid is a great app repository. > By the way did someone here tried to install CyanogenMod or Replicant OS? > Is it as usable as android 2.3? > > Please have a look at this page Free your Android > https://fsfe.org/campaigns/android/liberate.en.html > > > Jean > > On 10 March 2012 23:00, < > free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> wrote: > > > Send Free-software-melb mailing list submissions to > > free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > free-software-melb-owner(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Free-software-melb digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: free android software (Brian May) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:02:53 +1100 > > From: Brian May <brian(a)microcomaustralia.com.au> > > To: Melbourne Free Software Interest Group > > <free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> > > Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] free android software > > Message-ID: > > <CAA0ZO6DkZPuT0frtBsgVZooM=0pj2aWz6VBbch8zh__EY8= > b7Q(a)mail.gmail.com > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > On 6 March 2012 11:39, Bianca Gibson <bianca.rachel.gibson(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Also try F-Droid, there is a bunch of relevant resources on the fsfe > > > website. > > > http://fsfe.org/campaigns/android/liberate.en.html > > > > F-Droid does look good > > http://f-droid.org/ > > > > There seem to be a number of FOSS apps on the Google market not > > available here, might try and fix that... > > > > For now, however, trying to solve an OpenSudoku puzzle :-) > > -- > > Brian May <brian(a)microcomaustralia.com.au> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Free-software-melb mailing list > > Free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > > > > > End of Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 5 > > ************************************************* > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:15:29 +1100 > From: Russell Coker <russell(a)coker.com.au> > To: Melbourne Free Software Interest Group > <free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au>, > free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, > Issue 5 > Message-ID: <0366198c-0af7-4cfc-9c7b-631f214bf8a0(a)email.android.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I am running Cyanogenmod 7 on this phone. It works really well, I can't > compare with stock Android 2.3 as I have never tried it. > > The process of installing Cyanogenmod was painful and they had no docs for > going from android 2.2. > -- > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S Android phone with K-9 Mail. > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Free-software-melb mailing list > Free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > > End of Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 6 > ************************************************* >

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Re: [free-software-melb] Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 7
by Jean Elchinger 14 Mar '12

14 Mar '12

Hi Russell, Thanks to you, I will consider to install CGM 7 (stable) on my S2 soon. I just need some time to backup everything and then I will let know to the mailing list here how it went. Jean On 13 March 2012 23:00, < free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> wrote: > Send Free-software-melb mailing list submissions to > free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > free-software-melb-owner(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Free-software-melb digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 6 (Jean Elchinger) > 2. Re: Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 6 (Russell Coker) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:03:02 +1100 > From: Jean Elchinger <jean.elchinger(a)gmail.com> > To: free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, > Issue 6 > Message-ID: > <CAJGTsXfJ214uB2VcAiUPaVUeCfKUt7hUvtZy7D-VC3eusVA7Wg(a)mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thanks, that's great to know. For me, I'll prefer to wait for Cyanogenmod 9 > to be stable and then install it on my galaxy S2. > > On 12 March 2012 23:00, < > free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> wrote: > > > Send Free-software-melb mailing list submissions to > > free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > free-software-melb-owner(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Free-software-melb digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 5 (Jean Elchinger) > > 2. Re: Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 5 (Russell Coker) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:37:22 +1100 > > From: Jean Elchinger <jean.elchinger(a)gmail.com> > > To: free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, > > Issue 5 > > Message-ID: > > <CAJGTsXc_FAfhAJoXz1qfB= > t8SZJzG-uY4Vxv8a-QQjNZ2EPtzA(a)mail.gmail.com > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Hello, > > > > F-Droid is a great app repository. > > By the way did someone here tried to install CyanogenMod or Replicant OS? > > Is it as usable as android 2.3? > > > > Please have a look at this page Free your Android > > https://fsfe.org/campaigns/android/liberate.en.html > > > > > > Jean > > > > On 10 March 2012 23:00, < > > free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> wrote: > > > > > Send Free-software-melb mailing list submissions to > > > free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > > > > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > free-software-melb-owner(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > than "Re: Contents of Free-software-melb digest..." > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > 1. Re: free android software (Brian May) > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:02:53 +1100 > > > From: Brian May <brian(a)microcomaustralia.com.au> > > > To: Melbourne Free Software Interest Group > > > <free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> > > > Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] free android software > > > Message-ID: > > > <CAA0ZO6DkZPuT0frtBsgVZooM=0pj2aWz6VBbch8zh__EY8= > > b7Q(a)mail.gmail.com > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > > > On 6 March 2012 11:39, Bianca Gibson <bianca.rachel.gibson(a)gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > Also try F-Droid, there is a bunch of relevant resources on the fsfe > > > > website. > > > > http://fsfe.org/campaigns/android/liberate.en.html > > > > > > F-Droid does look good > > > http://f-droid.org/ > > > > > > There seem to be a number of FOSS apps on the Google market not > > > available here, might try and fix that... > > > > > > For now, however, trying to solve an OpenSudoku puzzle :-) > > > -- > > > Brian May <brian(a)microcomaustralia.com.au> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Free-software-melb mailing list > > > Free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > > > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > > > > > > > > End of Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 5 > > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:15:29 +1100 > > From: Russell Coker <russell(a)coker.com.au> > > To: Melbourne Free Software Interest Group > > <free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au>, > > free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, > > Issue 5 > > Message-ID: <0366198c-0af7-4cfc-9c7b-631f214bf8a0(a)email.android.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > I am running Cyanogenmod 7 on this phone. It works really well, I can't > > compare with stock Android 2.3 as I have never tried it. > > > > The process of installing Cyanogenmod was painful and they had no docs > for > > going from android 2.2. > > -- > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S Android phone with K-9 Mail. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Free-software-melb mailing list > > Free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > > > > > End of Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 6 > > ************************************************* > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:20:01 +1100 > From: Russell Coker <russell(a)coker.com.au> > To: free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > Cc: Jean Elchinger <jean.elchinger(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, > Issue 6 > Message-ID: <201203122320.01784.russell(a)coker.com.au> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2012, Jean Elchinger <jean.elchinger(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks, that's great to know. For me, I'll prefer to wait for > Cyanogenmod 9 > > to be stable and then install it on my galaxy S2. > > Why wait? > > You really need to have your phone rooted right from the start. Without > root > access you can't do a full backup and therefore you don't want to do much > with > a phone before rooting it. > > So if you are rooting the phone then you might as well mod it at the same > time. If nothing else the process of installing CGM 9 over CGM 7 is > probably > going to be better supported than installing CGM 9 over whatever your S2 > currently has. > > -- > My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ > My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Free-software-melb mailing list > Free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > > End of Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 7 > ************************************************* >

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Re: [free-software-melb] Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 5
by Jean Elchinger 12 Mar '12

12 Mar '12

Hello, F-Droid is a great app repository. By the way did someone here tried to install CyanogenMod or Replicant OS? Is it as usable as android 2.3? Please have a look at this page Free your Android https://fsfe.org/campaigns/android/liberate.en.html Jean On 10 March 2012 23:00, < free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> wrote: > Send Free-software-melb mailing list submissions to > free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > free-software-melb-request(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > free-software-melb-owner(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Free-software-melb digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: free android software (Brian May) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:02:53 +1100 > From: Brian May <brian(a)microcomaustralia.com.au> > To: Melbourne Free Software Interest Group > <free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au> > Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] free android software > Message-ID: > <CAA0ZO6DkZPuT0frtBsgVZooM=0pj2aWz6VBbch8zh__EY8=b7Q(a)mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On 6 March 2012 11:39, Bianca Gibson <bianca.rachel.gibson(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Also try F-Droid, there is a bunch of relevant resources on the fsfe > > website. > > http://fsfe.org/campaigns/android/liberate.en.html > > F-Droid does look good > http://f-droid.org/ > > There seem to be a number of FOSS apps on the Google market not > available here, might try and fix that... > > For now, however, trying to solve an OpenSudoku puzzle :-) > -- > Brian May <brian(a)microcomaustralia.com.au> > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Free-software-melb mailing list > Free-software-melb(a)lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb > > > End of Free-software-melb Digest, Vol 19, Issue 5 > ************************************************* >

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free android software
by Brian May 10 Mar '12

10 Mar '12

Hello, One thing that has been nagging me recently in that the official method of finding android apps - the Google market - is geared towards generating profit, as such Google haven't done anything to make it easy to find free (as in freedom) android apps, even when they exist. I can't find it now (wish I had saved a link), however I am sure I have seen an free app in the market where the description strongly discouraged downloading the source code because it would take away from profits required for future development. The only (rather incomplete) list of free software I can see is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_Android_applications I suspect the fact free (as in freedom) software isn't very visible just encourages more software that isn't free. Any thoughts? -- Brian May <brian(a)microcomaustralia.com.au>

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