Need examples of innovative Australian software
Hi Folks, Thank for your overwhelming support of our patents letter! We're now taking the next step of preparing a petition that can be presented to the Federal House of Reps. This has requirements of being on paper and with original signatures. I'll look forward to collecting your signature some time soon. I'm looking for examples of innovative Australian software (developed without patents), preferably earlier than 1992. The earlier the better. So far I have: - Trumpet Winsock (internet connection tool, 1993) - HotDog Pro (web page editor, 1995) - rsync (data syncronisation tool, 1996) - netfilter/iptables (firewall tools, 1998) What others can you think of? Cheers, Ben
How about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MHSnet cheers, Malcolm
And, after the brains have stewed a bit, Bambi's mSQL (forerunner of MySQL etc): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSQL Malcolm
Hey Ben, Great work. You can probably count some of the great work Rasterman did when he was in Australia (prior to 1997). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carsten_Haitzler Regards, Adam On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 09:16:50AM +1000, Ben Sturmfels wrote:
Hi Folks, Thank for your overwhelming support of our patents letter!
We're now taking the next step of preparing a petition that can be presented to the Federal House of Reps. This has requirements of being on paper and with original signatures. I'll look forward to collecting your signature some time soon.
I'm looking for examples of innovative Australian software (developed without patents), preferably earlier than 1992. The earlier the better.
So far I have: - Trumpet Winsock (internet connection tool, 1993) - HotDog Pro (web page editor, 1995) - rsync (data syncronisation tool, 1996) - netfilter/iptables (firewall tools, 1998)
What others can you think of?
Cheers, Ben
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samba_%28software%29 see early history ... 1992? regards On 03/09/10 09:16, Ben Sturmfels wrote:
Hi Folks, Thank for your overwhelming support of our patents letter!
We're now taking the next step of preparing a petition that can be presented to the Federal House of Reps. This has requirements of being on paper and with original signatures. I'll look forward to collecting your signature some time soon.
I'm looking for examples of innovative Australian software (developed without patents), preferably earlier than 1992. The earlier the better.
So far I have: - Trumpet Winsock (internet connection tool, 1993) - HotDog Pro (web page editor, 1995) - rsync (data syncronisation tool, 1996) - netfilter/iptables (firewall tools, 1998)
What others can you think of?
Cheers, Ben
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Hi Guys, Could you review a following project if it fits desired requirements. This project was released as an open source(GPL) in year 2006 however, according to a project description it could add some value to a final list: http://www.ask-oss.mq.edu.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=54&Itemid=69 http://sourceforge.net/projects/anuga/ Lubos Rendek -- http://www.linuxconfig.org On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Ben Sturmfels <ben@stumbles.id.au> wrote:
Hi Folks, Thank for your overwhelming support of our patents letter!
We're now taking the next step of preparing a petition that can be presented to the Federal House of Reps. This has requirements of being on paper and with original signatures. I'll look forward to collecting your signature some time soon.
I'm looking for examples of innovative Australian software (developed without patents), preferably earlier than 1992. The earlier the better.
So far I have: - Trumpet Winsock (internet connection tool, 1993) - HotDog Pro (web page editor, 1995) - rsync (data syncronisation tool, 1996) - netfilter/iptables (firewall tools, 1998)
What others can you think of?
Cheers, Ben
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Wollongong TCP/IP for VMS mid 80's On 03/09/2010, at 10:27 , Lubos Rendek wrote:
Hi Guys,
Could you review a following project if it fits desired requirements. This project was released as an open source(GPL) in year 2006 however, according to a project description it could add some value to a final list:
http://www.ask-oss.mq.edu.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=54&Itemid=69
http://sourceforge.net/projects/anuga/
Lubos Rendek -- http://www.linuxconfig.org
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Ben Sturmfels <ben@stumbles.id.au> wrote:
Hi Folks, Thank for your overwhelming support of our patents letter!
We're now taking the next step of preparing a petition that can be presented to the Federal House of Reps. This has requirements of being on paper and with original signatures. I'll look forward to collecting your signature some time soon.
I'm looking for examples of innovative Australian software (developed without patents), preferably earlier than 1992. The earlier the better.
So far I have: - Trumpet Winsock (internet connection tool, 1993) - HotDog Pro (web page editor, 1995) - rsync (data syncronisation tool, 1996) - netfilter/iptables (firewall tools, 1998)
What others can you think of?
Cheers, Ben
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Ben Sturmfels wrote:
I'm looking for examples of innovative Australian software (developed without patents), preferably earlier than 1992. The earlier the better.
BNU by Unique Computing P/L (David Nugent), from Melbourne (1980s): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNU_%28software%29 Andrew
Ben Sturmfels wrote:
I'm looking for examples of innovative Australian software (developed without patents), preferably earlier than 1992. The earlier the better.
Most obviously, Eric A. Young and Tim J. Hudson's SSLeay (the basis for the globally fundamental OpenSSL), developed in Australia specifically because the RSA patents weren't effective in this country. Andrew
Great thread guys. Having just joined the Melb list I'm not really up with the anti-patents campaign, will have to do some reading up on it. An interesting Australian software development story I have a small personal connection to (worked an an intern there late 90s) is what was VET anti-virus, that is now sold under CA's global brand after a buy-out. For a while VET did very well internationally in terms of anti-virus quality while Au-developed, I'm not sure about the CA product these days. It started out as shareware in 1989, though not sure if it was ever open source. A brief history is at: http://www.cybec.com.au/Vet.htm cheers, Patrick. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Andrew Pam <andrew@sericyb.com.au> wrote:
Ben Sturmfels wrote:
I'm looking for examples of innovative Australian software (developed without patents), preferably earlier than 1992. The earlier the better.
Most obviously, Eric A. Young and Tim J. Hudson's SSLeay (the basis for the globally fundamental OpenSSL), developed in Australia specifically because the RSA patents weren't effective in this country.
Andrew
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I'm not sure about the CA product these days. I used to work for CA's Threat division (the people who were previously VET). Development was outsourced to an Indian company (HCL) around 2 years ago, but
Hey Patrick, the products continue to be sold under the CA name. Whilst most anti-malware researchers and product developers are now probably in India, there are still some Australian researchers and product developers working locally. Unfortunately most of the employees that were around since the VET days were recently retrenched, but I have a few contact details. I also know somebody who worked at Sausage Software and did a very short bit of work experience myself there back in the Hot Dog 5 days. Not sure if that's any use to you Ben (as far as your petition goes at least), but I'm happy to contact them on your behalf if you think they could somehow be helpful. Regards, Adam On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 11:32:28AM +1000, Patrick Sunter wrote:
Great thread guys.
Having just joined the Melb list I'm not really up with the anti-patents campaign, will have to do some reading up on it.
An interesting Australian software development story I have a small personal connection to (worked an an intern there late 90s) is what was VET anti-virus, that is now sold under CA's global brand after a buy-out. For a while VET did very well internationally in terms of anti-virus quality while Au-developed, I'm not sure about the CA product these days.
It started out as shareware in 1989, though not sure if it was ever open source. A brief history is at: http://www.cybec.com.au/Vet.htm
cheers, Patrick.
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Andrew Pam <andrew@sericyb.com.au> wrote:
Ben Sturmfels wrote:
I'm looking for examples of innovative Australian software (developed without patents), preferably earlier than 1992. The earlier the better.
Most obviously, Eric A. Young and Tim J. Hudson's SSLeay (the basis for the globally fundamental OpenSSL), developed in Australia specifically because the RSA patents weren't effective in this country.
Andrew
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-- Patrick Sunter
VPAC Senior Computational Software Developer - AuScope Monash SAM Project Monash University Adjunct Research Associate (School of Mathematical Sciences)
Room 301, Building 28 Monash University VIC 3800 Australia
Ph: +61 (0)3 9905 4468
For VPAC/AuScope admin issues email: patrick@vpac.org For AuScope software development email: patdevelop@gmail.com
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Hi all, How about academic research into software? A lot of that is published in papers rather than patents. Does anyone know of any examples? I can think of one, but I'll have to look into it some more. Cheers, Alex
Hi all, How about academic research into software? A lot of that is published in papers rather than patents. Does anyone know of any examples? I can think of one, but I'll have to look into it some more. Cheers, Alex
http://gumnut.sourceforge.net/ Good bit of innovative software from a brosef of mine. No patents. Uses distributed protocols (namely gnutella I think) to distribute consensus decision making and reaching processes. On 03/09/2010, at 7:16 AM, Ben Sturmfels wrote:
Hi Folks, Thank for your overwhelming support of our patents letter!
We're now taking the next step of preparing a petition that can be presented to the Federal House of Reps. This has requirements of being on paper and with original signatures. I'll look forward to collecting your signature some time soon.
I'm looking for examples of innovative Australian software (developed without patents), preferably earlier than 1992. The earlier the better.
So far I have: - Trumpet Winsock (internet connection tool, 1993) - HotDog Pro (web page editor, 1995) - rsync (data syncronisation tool, 1996) - netfilter/iptables (firewall tools, 1998)
What others can you think of?
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I'm looking for examples of innovative Australian software (developed without patents), preferably earlier than 1992. The earlier the better.
Thanks everyone for your great suggestions. They'll be a great help for completing the petition. If you'd like to sign the paper petition, you can find us at Richard Stallman's Melbourne speech on 15 September: http://nicta.com.au/nicta_events/events/event_repository/upcoming_events/big... or at Software Freedom Day Melbourne on 18 September: http://www.sfd.org.au/melbourne/ For elsewhere in Australia, I'll publish a copy online for you to sign and post back to me. Regards, Ben
On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 22:42:26 +1000 Ben Sturmfels <ben@stumbles.id.au> wrote: Did someone mention Moodle? Daniel
I'm looking for examples of innovative Australian software (developed without patents), preferably earlier than 1992. The earlier the better.
Thanks everyone for your great suggestions. They'll be a great help for completing the petition.
If you'd like to sign the paper petition, you can find us at Richard Stallman's Melbourne speech on 15 September: http://nicta.com.au/nicta_events/events/event_repository/upcoming_events/big...
or at Software Freedom Day Melbourne on 18 September: http://www.sfd.org.au/melbourne/
For elsewhere in Australia, I'll publish a copy online for you to sign and post back to me.
Regards, Ben
Hi Ben, Are you still looking for examples, or have collected enough already? If not, might I suggest setting up a wiki on softwarefreedom.com.au somewhere so everyone can see what you've got? I can post short messages and URLS to my workplace message board (to get more people involved), but can't easily list everything without resorting to sending out e-mails (which might be frowned upon). Sending a link to a wiki page would be ideal. Thanks, Adam On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 10:42:26PM +1000, Ben Sturmfels wrote:
I'm looking for examples of innovative Australian software (developed without patents), preferably earlier than 1992. The earlier the better.
Thanks everyone for your great suggestions. They'll be a great help for completing the petition.
If you'd like to sign the paper petition, you can find us at Richard Stallman's Melbourne speech on 15 September: http://nicta.com.au/nicta_events/events/event_repository/upcoming_events/big...
or at Software Freedom Day Melbourne on 18 September: http://www.sfd.org.au/melbourne/
For elsewhere in Australia, I'll publish a copy online for you to sign and post back to me.
Regards, Ben
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Adam Bolte wrote:
Are you still looking for examples, or have collected enough already? If not, might I suggest setting up a wiki on softwarefreedom.com.au somewhere so everyone can see what you've got?
I've added everyone's examples to the End Software Patents wiki: http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Australia#Australian_software_developed_without_sof... Any assistance to clean up, add the all important first release date, or extend the list would be greatly appreciated. Let's continue further discussion on the australia-public-discuss@endsoftwarepatents.org mailing list only. Anyone interested in patents should join that list. Regards, Ben
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Adam Bolte
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Alex Fraser
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Andrew Pam
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Ben Sturmfels
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danyj028@gmail
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Lubos Rendek
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Malcolm Gillies
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Mr. Stetner Doug
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Patrick Sunter
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Shayne O'Neill
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Steven Sackett