Gooseberry - the open animation film, why it matters
Hi all, I'd like to bring some attention to a crowd funding campaign for Blender. They're pushing for a feature-length film this time - which will result in a lot of development of free software video production tools (especially Blender), and hopefully recognition from the industry that it's viable to use free software in production. Please check it out! Alex ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ton Roosendaal <ton@blender.org> Date: Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:39 AM Subject: [Bf-committers] Gooseberry - the open animation film, why it matters To: bf-blender developers <bf-committers@blender.org> Hi all, I can't express enough how important this Gooseberry project is, for me personally and for a lot of people out there. There are so many solutions for urgent issues coming together in Gooseberry - it is really mind-blowing sometimes. This is what Gooseberry is for me: - Open Movies as a Blender development model. Open Source software works very well as in-house software, as an ongoing flexible development process. This is opposite to commercial programs, these have a more distinct product life cycle. Imagine: Gooseberry is going to be an 18 month animation-studio simulation! With so many wonderful technical-creative challenges to solve, and we can all be part of it. - Raise the bar - make a feature animation film. Every animator or artist who has done a couple of shorts before, understands the excitement of the prospect doing a feature animation film once. It's really a different medium, it's a new technical and creative challenge - risky but rewarding. It's also a medium that brings you a new and massive audience. This would be the ultimate advertisement for Blender as well as for FOSS in general. - Investigate using Cloud services and features for open source projects Software is moving into the cloud, Adobe and Autodesk work hard on it. They present this as "benefit for the users" but they actually just pull up an Iron Curtain to safely hide their software behind. No more piracy, no reverse engineering... total control! I don't want to wait for us to lose this fight. We can find out ourselves what the real user benefits are, but in openness and by truly respecting user freedom. The Gooseberry teams will use Cloud, for sharing and collaboration. With you too! - Building the world's largest free/open 3d content & education repository We shouldn't underestimate how much importance the open movies and the open game had for education and training. Not only for its free data, but especially for the tutorials, the making-of videos, the training dvds we made with these teams. This massive dataset should be kept around, renewed but also be kept updated and working. - New business model for Blender Institute and Foundation We can't keep selling paper and plastic with open/free data forever... that did a lot for us, helped Blender to grow, hire developers and do big projects. But the revenues are going down. Having a pile of DVDs is nice on your bookshelf, but not to actually use. Online sharing - in the cloud - is a much better solution for the data. I believe in a future for subscription models for cool content/training/data/services. Especially if that enables us to become a media producer ourselves! - Occupy Bay Area, Occupy Hollywood? There's a real growing unrest out there about how a few greedy people control this business - making their billions - while others lose jobs in the same week their company has won an Oscar. Yep, Mark Z. buys another toy for billions, which he makes by selling our digital lives. And we nerds just line up for yet another Marvel super hero movie again. Meanwhile the powers that be prepare for a segregated internet - with fast and "free" commercial channels - and a slow, expensive one for the remains of the open internet we loved. I'm not fit for politics, nor do I feel much like protesting or mud slinging. I'm a maker - I'm interested in finding solutions together and doing experiments with taking back control over our digital lives, our media, and especially get back ownership as creative people again - and make a decent living with it. So that's Gooseberry for me. An experiment, but with potential impact! I know there's some skepticism out there, about the project concept and about the slow funding start. But well - we're learning, and we're developing well to get the message and the website to work optimally. It's also inventing something new, and that you can only do by trying it. Key is that I'm having a vision, and the guts to live by that vision. I'm not lead by polls, not by common opinions or what others think might be more successful. I'm also not a billionaire. Not a movie star. It's just me :) And one thing for sure, I cannot do this alone. http://cloud.blender.org/gooseberry/ Thanks, -Ton- -------------------------------------------------------- Ton Roosendaal - ton@blender.org - www.blender.org Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute Entrepotdok 57A - 1018AD Amsterdam - The Netherlands
Alex Fraser <alex@phatcore.com> writes:
I'd like to bring some attention to a crowd funding campaign for Blender. […]
Ben Finney <ben+freesoftware@benfinney.id.au> writes:
Would you like Free Software Melbourne to financially support a project making a series of well-produced video episodes, raising awareness of the role copying has in our society and culture?
How would you – Free Software Melbourne members – like this group to act in regard to supporting worthwhile projects aligned with our goals? Should we collect funds at meetings and have a percentage of those go to some worthwhile project periodically? Or something else? -- \ “[It's] best to confuse only one issue at a time.” —Brian W. | `\ Kernighan, Dennis M. Ritchie, _The C programming language_, 1988 | _o__) | Ben Finney
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:52:27AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
Alex Fraser <alex@phatcore.com> writes:
I'd like to bring some attention to a crowd funding campaign for Blender. […]
Ben Finney <ben+freesoftware@benfinney.id.au> writes:
Would you like Free Software Melbourne to financially support a project making a series of well-produced video episodes, raising awareness of the role copying has in our society and culture?
How would you – Free Software Melbourne members – like this group to act in regard to supporting worthwhile projects aligned with our goals?
Should we collect funds at meetings and have a percentage of those go to some worthwhile project periodically? Or something else?
I personally donate to a couple of things including donations relevant to our group such as to the FSF, and also put a lot into the MediaGoblin fundraiser recently. There are many things I'd like to donate to, but it's not possible to donate a significant amount to everything. Because of this, I'd rather donate to groups that I feel align with my own interests. Sometimes those might align perfectly with what our Free Software Melbourne group considers worthwhile, and other times it might not. My preference is for options to be presented at our monthly meetings, and for everybody to personally decide in their own time who they want to donate to, as well as when and how much they wish to donate. Doing a group donation is great to get our group name out there and help make it clear what we stand for, but at the same time I don't want people to feel pressured (or concern themselves with the possibility of that happening). Doing so may make people hesitant to come along to our meetings if they don't have the money to spare, or simply aren't interested in the cause. So let's all discuss these ideas, promote them, explain why they are important etc. But I'm not sure I'm for collecting donations at our meetings themselves as a usual activity. Having said that, I can see exceptions where it may be desirable. eg. * if somebody would like Free Software Melbourne to take care of the donation process (a possibly that could increase in likelihood if funds have been collected on behalf of other people). * cases where a minimum amount is required to donate for some reason, or there are significant cost overheads involved in having everyone donate separately. Cheers, Adam
FSM crowd-funding? ;) Like in: "Flying Spaghetti Monster (blessed be His Noodly Appendages) crowd-funding"? ;)
Is there any problem with: I'm making a personal donation but I'd be willing this donation be considered as coming from FSM? If there is a problem, can that problem be solved somehow? (e.g. put some process in place so that FSM checks if the destination is OK then "blesses with its name" the transaction). Adrian (a somehow asocial/unsocial - whatever but not antisocial - guy who never found time to see you all face-2-face *not* for reason of donations) On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Adam Bolte <abolte@systemsaviour.com>wrote:
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:52:27AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
Alex Fraser <alex@phatcore.com> writes:
I'd like to bring some attention to a crowd funding campaign for Blender. […]
Ben Finney <ben+freesoftware@benfinney.id.au> writes:
Would you like Free Software Melbourne to financially support a project making a series of well-produced video episodes, raising awareness of the role copying has in our society and culture?
How would you – Free Software Melbourne members – like this group to act in regard to supporting worthwhile projects aligned with our goals?
Should we collect funds at meetings and have a percentage of those go to some worthwhile project periodically? Or something else?
I personally donate to a couple of things including donations relevant to our group such as to the FSF, and also put a lot into the MediaGoblin fundraiser recently.
There are many things I'd like to donate to, but it's not possible to donate a significant amount to everything. Because of this, I'd rather donate to groups that I feel align with my own interests. Sometimes those might align perfectly with what our Free Software Melbourne group considers worthwhile, and other times it might not.
My preference is for options to be presented at our monthly meetings, and for everybody to personally decide in their own time who they want to donate to, as well as when and how much they wish to donate.
Doing a group donation is great to get our group name out there and help make it clear what we stand for, but at the same time I don't want people to feel pressured (or concern themselves with the possibility of that happening). Doing so may make people hesitant to come along to our meetings if they don't have the money to spare, or simply aren't interested in the cause.
So let's all discuss these ideas, promote them, explain why they are important etc. But I'm not sure I'm for collecting donations at our meetings themselves as a usual activity.
Having said that, I can see exceptions where it may be desirable. eg.
* if somebody would like Free Software Melbourne to take care of the donation process (a possibly that could increase in likelihood if funds have been collected on behalf of other people).
* cases where a minimum amount is required to donate for some reason, or there are significant cost overheads involved in having everyone donate separately.
Cheers, Adam
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On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 04:29:04PM +1000, Adrian Colomitchi wrote:
Is there any problem with: I'm making a personal donation but I'd be willing this donation be considered as coming from FSM? If there is a problem, can that problem be solved somehow? (e.g. put some process in place so that FSM checks if the destination is OK then "blesses with its name" the transaction).
I'm sure that can be arranged. There might well be people who wish to donate anonymously for whatever reason also. Ben would likely be the best qualified to identify any issues with this that need pointing out.
Adrian (a somehow asocial/unsocial - whatever but not antisocial - guy who never found time to see you all face-2-face *not* for reason of donations)
No worries, although I'm not sure that there was ever some expectation of donations at any of our previous meet-ups anyway. As for not having time, we're aware that the usual date and time does not suit everyone (if that's a factor for you). It has been briefly discussed at the previous meet-up (see Ben's meeting notes posted on the 26th of March), so let us know if you have any thoughts. Cheers, Adam
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Adam Bolte
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Adrian Colomitchi
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Alex Fraser
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Ben Finney