GNU Media Goblin crowd-funding campaign
Hi Folks, GNU MediaGoblin is a free software media publishing system for images, video, and audio. I've found it very useful for hosting my own photos. The goblins are running a crowd-funding campaign to add some advanced features like decentralisation as well as simpler installation and administration. I've just made a donation and thought you might like to to: http://mediagoblin.org/pages/campaign.html Christopher Allan Webber, the project lead was recently interview on Free as In Freedom. Definitely worth a listen: http://faif.us/cast/2012/sep/14/0x31/ Regards, Ben
Ben Sturmfels <ben@stumbles.id.au> writes:
GNU MediaGoblin is a free software media publishing system for images, video, and audio. I've found it very useful for hosting my own photos.
The goblins are running a crowd-funding campaign to add some advanced features like decentralisation as well as simpler installation and administration. I've just made a donation and thought you might like to to:
Would it be a good idea for us to pool a bunch of money and sponsor GNU MediaGoblin, with a single large donation in the name of Free Software Melbourne? We could aim for $1000 or some other impressive figure. -- \ “Only the educated are free.” —Epictetus | `\ | _o__) | Ben Finney
On 19 October 2012 10:54, Ben Finney <bignose+hates-spam@benfinney.id.au> wrote:
Would it be a good idea for us to pool a bunch of money and sponsor GNU MediaGoblin, with a single large donation in the name of Free Software Melbourne?
We could aim for $1000 or some other impressive figure.
Sounds pretty good to me - the only trouble is handling the money. Would you be comfortable making the payment on behalf of the group? Alex
Alex Fraser <alex@phatcore.com> writes:
Would you be comfortable making the payment on behalf of the group?
Sure, so long as people trust me to do so. Please pay into my bank account via Australian bank transfer: BSB: 733065 Account: 602502 Amount: (be generous!) Description: MediaGoblin * The description is important! Without that, I won't know what the money is for. * Any donations will be anonymous unless you also send me an email telling me which receipt number is yours. If you do that, I'll thank you by name when I make the announcement of the aggregate donation. * All money transferred as above and received before close of business 2012-10-31 will be in the aggregate donation. In other words: Get the money to me before the end of this month and I'll donate it to MediaGoblin in the name of Free Software Melbourne. -- \ “There was a point to this story, but it has temporarily | `\ escaped the chronicler's mind.” —Douglas Adams | _o__) | Ben Finney
Howdy all, As a reminder, I'm co-ordinating a group donation on behalf of Free Software Melbourne, to the GNU MediaGoblin funding campaign. Please pay into my bank account via Australian bank transfer: BSB: 733065 Account: 602502 Amount: (be generous!) Description: MediaGoblin * The description is important! Without that, I won't know what the money is for. * Any donations will be anonymous unless you also send me an email telling me which receipt number is yours. If you do that, I'll thank you by name when I make the announcement of the aggregate donation. * This won't be eligible for claiming as a donation on your tax return, as FSM isn't a registered anything, let alone a charity. * All money transferred as above and received before close of business 2012-10-31 will be in the aggregate donation. In other words: Get the money to me before the end of this month and I'll donate it to MediaGoblin in the name of Free Software Melbourne. -- \ “Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability.” —Edsger W. | `\ Dijkstra | _o__) | Ben Finney
Ben Finney <ben+freesoftware@benfinney.id.au> writes:
In other words: Get the money to me before the end of this month and I'll donate it to MediaGoblin in the name of Free Software Melbourne.
Today I made a donation of US$240 to the campaign, hooray! It was a little complicated; I'm still trying to declare the donation in the name “Free Software Melbourne” instead of my name. If we want to do this again in future, it will be advantageous to be incorporated and have a bank account. That brings a whole lot more hassle though :-/ Thanks to the following members who contributed to this donation: Benet Hitchcock Alex Fraser Ben Finney And thanks, of course, to anyone who donated on their own. -- \ “I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too | `\ much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it.” | _o__) —Thomas Jefferson | Ben Finney
On Nov 7, 2012 2:08 PM, "Ben Finney" <ben+freesoftware@benfinney.id.au> wrote:
Ben Finney <ben+freesoftware@benfinney.id.au> writes: Today I made a donation of US$240 to the campaign, hooray!
Thanks very much for doing that, Ben! I appreciate that it would have been complicated. And thanks for taking on the responsibility. Let's discuss incorporation at the next meeting. I suspect though that we'd want more reasons than this to go through with it. Cheers, Alex
Hi Ben (and other FSMers),
Ben Finney <ben+freesoftware@benfinney.id.au> writes:
In other words: Get the money to me before the end of this month and I'll donate it to MediaGoblin in the name of Free Software Melbourne.
Yeah, doing a collective donation in the name of FSM would be good. Unless I'm mistaken, the nominal close of the campaign is pretty imminent, so I just went ahead and make a personal donation. Yeah, getting formally incorporated has its plusses and minusses. Worth giving some consideration to from time to time. -- Smiles, Les.
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 06:57:09PM +1100, Les Kitchen wrote
Yeah, doing a collective donation in the name of FSM would be good. Unless I'm mistaken, the nominal close of the campaign is pretty imminent, so I just went ahead and make a personal donation.
I too just made a personal donation. My wife was concerned about doing things in some unofficial manner, and I didn't want to argue. Additionally, I can't believe they didn't take this opportunity to support Bitcoin. I would have donated a lot more if they had.
Yeah, getting formally incorporated has its plusses and minusses. Worth giving some consideration to from time to time.
My understanding is that the idea is mainly to promote our group. There might be another easy way for MediaGoblin to identify people in our group to establish the size of our contribution without us having to go through the costs and efforts of getting incorporated. What if everyone had an @melbourne.softwarefreedom.com.au e-mail alias (or some other domain representing our group). Whenever we donate, we simply use that address in the contact field? This might be some middle-ground. If the list of donations is ever published with e-mail addresses, we will get much more visibility than a single line. Otherwise, it would be easy for us to ask all donations from that domain be grouped together without having to get approval from everyone. Don't like the idea that you may not personally get a mention? Just don't use that e-mail alias. Easy. Perhaps http://melbourne.softwarefreedom.com.au could be a page clearly stating that everyone with an e-mail address here consents to donations being grouped together in the name of Free Software Melbourne to avoid confusion of those we are donating to. -Adam
Ben Finney <ben+freesoftware@benfinney.id.au> writes:
Today I made a donation of US$240 to the campaign, hooray!
It was a little complicated; I'm still trying to declare the donation in the name “Free Software Melbourne” instead of my name.
John Sullivan of the FSF has belatedly notified me that the name was changed per my request. Our group's name is nor acknowledged as the donor. -- \ “It's my belief we developed language because of our deep inner | `\ need to complain.” —Jane Wagner, via Lily Tomlin | _o__) | Ben Finney
Ben Finney <ben+freesoftware@benfinney.id.au> writes:
Today I made [in the name of Free Software Melbourne] a donation of US$240 to the campaign, hooray!
As a reward, the MediaGoblin project has sent me a T-shirt with their logo. It's a “unisex” (i.e. men's) style, size Large. This shirt belongs, IMO, to Free Software Melbourne. What should we do with it? We could auction it at some upcoming event. Is there a likely event with a bunch of people who might have heard of us but not yet attended? An auction in the name of FSM might be a friendly way to increase awareness of our group. -- \ “Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.” —Pablo | `\ Picasso | _o__) | Ben Finney
On 19/10/12 10:54, Ben Finney wrote:
Would it be a good idea for us to pool a bunch of money and sponsor GNU MediaGoblin, with a single large donation in the name of Free Software Melbourne?
This is a great idea! Donations are the best way to contribute to free software if you earn a comfortable living but don't have the time to participate directly. I'm just disappointed I've already donated! Perhaps we could do group donations regularly; a gold coin donation at meetings to the free software project of the month. Any thoughts? Of course it's no different to donating individually, but we would save on transfer fees and the total is more satisfying. Ben S.
agree, group donations a good idea . . and can I throw an option into the mix for future - diaspora ( http://diasporaproject.org/) - seems like facebook is determined to kill itself through greed and i wonder if a strong push of support at the right time could increase chances of flight to diaspora rather than (or as well as) google+ / twitter? 25 October 2012 08:56, Ben Sturmfels <ben@stumbles.id.au> wrote:
On 19/10/12 10:54, Ben Finney wrote:
Would it be a good idea for us to pool a bunch of money and sponsor GNU MediaGoblin, with a single large donation in the name of Free Software Melbourne?
This is a great idea! Donations are the best way to contribute to free software if you earn a comfortable living but don't have the time to participate directly. I'm just disappointed I've already donated!
Perhaps we could do group donations regularly; a gold coin donation at meetings to the free software project of the month. Any thoughts? Of course it's no different to donating individually, but we would save on transfer fees and the total is more satisfying.
Ben S.
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Kirsten Larsen <kirsten@eaterprises.com.au> wrote:
and can I throw an option into the mix for future - diaspora ( http://diasporaproject.org/) - seems like facebook is determined to kill itself through greed and i wonder if a strong push of support at the right time could increase chances of flight to diaspora rather than (or as well as) google+ / twitter?
Is anyone here running it? I've looked at it in the past, but with a combination of no Debian package and dependency issues I didn't bother proceeding. Probably the best thing to do for Diaspora is to get it packaged for various distributions so people can run it without unreasonable effort. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:07:26AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Kirsten Larsen <kirsten@eaterprises.com.au> wrote:
and can I throw an option into the mix for future - diaspora ( http://diasporaproject.org/) - seems like facebook is determined to kill itself through greed and i wonder if a strong push of support at the right time could increase chances of flight to diaspora rather than (or as well as) google+ / twitter?
Is anyone here running it? I've looked at it in the past, but with a combination of no Debian package and dependency issues I didn't bother proceeding.
Not right now. I intend to attempt to setup my own pod very soon, and will likely discuss how it went at the next meet-up. -Adam
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Adam Bolte <abolte@systemsaviour.com> wrote:
Not right now. I intend to attempt to setup my own pod very soon, and will likely discuss how it went at the next meet-up.
Will you offer accounts to people here? How difficult is it to migrate an account from one pod to another? -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:24:59PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Adam Bolte <abolte@systemsaviour.com> wrote:
Not right now. I intend to attempt to setup my own pod very soon, and will likely discuss how it went at the next meet-up.
Will you offer accounts to people here?
It wasn't my intention. I just run my server off of my home ADSL connection, so uptime and uplink bandwidth are not ideal. Additionally, I'd want to take security more seriously than I currently am if offering such accounts. However, having said that I'd be happy to help out in setting up a pod for the Melbourne Free Software group if we could organise better hosting.
How difficult is it to migrate an account from one pod to another?
Haven't tried. -Adam
Hi people, FYI there's also another group of people discussing / thinking about this and poss. of setting up decent trial in Melb, using social networks through hub melbourne, collabforge, p2p foundation etc. Suggesting profile for serversaurus or other hosting service if willing to sponsor. Are there people on this list that would be interested in being part of this and/or helping get it set up? I am not in Melbourne on 15th November (i think is next FSM meeting) but if there is enthusiasm someone else could possibly come and talk about it Cheers Kirsten On 25 October 2012 13:35, Adam Bolte <abolte@systemsaviour.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:24:59PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Adam Bolte <abolte@systemsaviour.com> wrote:
Not right now. I intend to attempt to setup my own pod very soon, and will likely discuss how it went at the next meet-up.
Will you offer accounts to people here?
It wasn't my intention. I just run my server off of my home ADSL connection, so uptime and uplink bandwidth are not ideal. Additionally, I'd want to take security more seriously than I currently am if offering such accounts.
However, having said that I'd be happy to help out in setting up a pod for the Melbourne Free Software group if we could organise better hosting.
How difficult is it to migrate an account from one pod to another?
Haven't tried.
-Adam
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My understanding is that existing laws (in the US at least, presumably Australia too) force governments to treat your data more seriously if it is physically hosted in your home. By not depending on a single hosting provider or a small number of hosting providers, and taking full advantage of federation features, we can make social networks more robust and difficult to attack. I would encourage everyone to take a look at the Freedom Box foundation. Maybe we could order a bunch of these for people interested, and help out with testing, documentation, etc. https://www.freedomboxfoundation.org/ Cheers, Adam On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 10:06:43AM +1100, Kirsten Larsen wrote:
Hi people,
FYI there's also another group of people discussing / thinking about this and poss. of setting up decent trial in Melb, using social networks through hub melbourne, collabforge, p2p foundation etc. Suggesting profile for serversaurus or other hosting service if willing to sponsor. Are there people on this list that would be interested in being part of this and/or helping get it set up?
I am not in Melbourne on 15th November (i think is next FSM meeting) but if there is enthusiasm someone else could possibly come and talk about it
Cheers Kirsten
On 25 October 2012 13:35, Adam Bolte <abolte@systemsaviour.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:24:59PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Adam Bolte <abolte@systemsaviour.com> wrote:
Not right now. I intend to attempt to setup my own pod very soon, and will likely discuss how it went at the next meet-up.
Will you offer accounts to people here?
It wasn't my intention. I just run my server off of my home ADSL connection, so uptime and uplink bandwidth are not ideal. Additionally, I'd want to take security more seriously than I currently am if offering such accounts.
However, having said that I'd be happy to help out in setting up a pod for the Melbourne Free Software group if we could organise better hosting.
How difficult is it to migrate an account from one pod to another?
Haven't tried.
-Adam
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Speaking of which... mentioned on Slashdot today: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/governments-attack-cloud-computing I suspect the US government would take the same stance against all shared hosting providers. We have to make it easier for people to host their data for themselves. - -Adam On 02/11/12 11:30, Adam Bolte wrote:
My understanding is that existing laws (in the US at least, presumably Australia too) force governments to treat your data more seriously if it is physically hosted in your home.
By not depending on a single hosting provider or a small number of hosting providers, and taking full advantage of federation features, we can make social networks more robust and difficult to attack.
I would encourage everyone to take a look at the Freedom Box foundation. Maybe we could order a bunch of these for people interested, and help out with testing, documentation, etc.
https://www.freedomboxfoundation.org/
Cheers, Adam
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 10:06:43AM +1100, Kirsten Larsen wrote:
Hi people,
FYI there's also another group of people discussing / thinking about this and poss. of setting up decent trial in Melb, using social networks through hub melbourne, collabforge, p2p foundation etc. Suggesting profile for serversaurus or other hosting service if willing to sponsor. Are there people on this list that would be interested in being part of this and/or helping get it set up?
I am not in Melbourne on 15th November (i think is next FSM meeting) but if there is enthusiasm someone else could possibly come and talk about it
Cheers Kirsten
On 25 October 2012 13:35, Adam Bolte <abolte@systemsaviour.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:24:59PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Adam Bolte <abolte@systemsaviour.com> wrote:
Not right now. I intend to attempt to setup my own pod very soon, and will likely discuss how it went at the next meet-up.
Will you offer accounts to people here?
It wasn't my intention. I just run my server off of my home ADSL connection, so uptime and uplink bandwidth are not ideal. Additionally, I'd want to take security more seriously than I currently am if offering such accounts.
However, having said that I'd be happy to help out in setting up a pod for the Melbourne Free Software group if we could organise better hosting.
How difficult is it to migrate an account from one pod to another?
Haven't tried.
-Adam
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On Sat, 2012-11-03 at 06:14 +1100, Adam Bolte wrote:
Speaking of which... mentioned on Slashdot today:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/governments-attack-cloud-computing
I suspect the US government would take the same stance against all shared hosting providers. We have to make it easier for people to host their data for themselves. One of the big hurdles is the A in ADSL (bandwidth and allowed quota). IPV6 (almost ubiquitous) unavailability is the second one.
Otherwise, I'd host my site(s) at home (web and email). Adrian
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 03/11/12 14:28, Adrian Colomitchi wrote:
On Sat, 2012-11-03 at 06:14 +1100, Adam Bolte wrote:
Speaking of which... mentioned on Slashdot today:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/governments-attack-cloud-computing
I suspect the US government would take the same stance against all
shared hosting providers. We have to make it easier for people to host their data for themselves. One of the big hurdles is the A in ADSL (bandwidth and allowed quota). IPV6 (almost ubiquitous) unavailability is the second one.
Otherwise, I'd host my site(s) at home (web and email).
Your social networking sites must be far more popular than mine. ;) Regarding your comment on IPv6, it seems to be generally pretty cheap to pick up a static IPv4 IP address with home ADSL plans in Australia at least (if not included for free), but it is something that some people will need to go out of their way for and isn't always available. IPv6 will be awesome, if it ever becomes mainstream. - -Adam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQlLMGAAoJEE2M/Tk0piBIaN4IALsAJdwbRy6I0ZsHBkC54OsP fwp7yBBowGeKxQd+odq+tSPTE9f0SGfl2koyU/n+Vpqys8hP0Dqw/PaP8fIuWKw/ JaMAXa6jweDwQLpfYU0SyiFbqdgx5dJZvA8wqa0w3Wg3jaI80LLUqC+5eoBG5Vth y7VgUXyflgW+2fCyjLLIf5urApLMl5FcL/Cb/spXt7XdN32tg4h+baOJnGyA73Yo U00hWItJ/RP2ttRoqjBVXyAan/aor1Ph2507FWJIOUjw6xFolf6PTR81WqM6nZE+ Q+8kMyX/q0B+4UrNHlnxZ7O1C9fTff/5xGVvD8XyzEDls07x3RyzHVIYBsusmGs= =jgnB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Here's a good opinion piece on MediaGoblin by the Tube open movie guys: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1331941187/the-tube-open-movie/posts/344... Inspiring stuff! Alex
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