Hi Folks, Thanks for coming along to the discussion group on the 18 October! Notes are below. The next discussion group is on 15 November. Adam Bolte will be telling us about his explorations in running free software network services from home, including email, chat, microblogging, code hosting and media sharing. Ben Finney will be telling us how to avoid being tracked on the web. On 20 December we're having an evening BBQ, probably on the banks of the Yarra. We realise that it's a busy time for many, so this will be very casual. On 17 January we're holding a games night to follow-up from our highly successful event a little while back. I'm really looking forward to the next few months! Regards, Ben Notes from discussion group 18 October 2012 ------------------------------------------- - Ben demoed Media Goblin for hosting photos and videos and his use to host baby photos - Discussed the Media Goblin crowd-funding campaign - goals to build federated replacement for YouTube/Flick etc. - choice to use FSF infrastructure rather than Kickstarter - experiences with crowd-funding, fund-raising and grants - Ben's annual urge to free the E-tax income tax software - most present use an accountant - small number use E-tax or complete tax return on paper - standard free software approach of just rewriting? - could we do better than just clone E-tax? - our chances of connecting to ATO's network services to eg. submit return? - perhaps just printing return would be big step - contacting the ATO? it might save work for them - getting the API details under "freedom of information" - what is the future is for desktop E-tax? - ATO could well be building a web-app - ABC iView - ABC's cease and desist on Jeremy Visser's python-iview - Discussed upcoming meetings/events (see above) - December/January is busy but decided to hold events anyway
Sorry for replying to list on this - was skimming your notes Ben (great notes, thanks) and read about ABC cease and desist to Jeremy. Could someone fill me in on the details? It sounds really out of character for the ABC to do this. To formally issue a cease and desist they must be worried about something (?DRM?). Kind regards, K. On 27/10/12 03:24, Ben Sturmfels wrote:
Hi Folks,
Thanks for coming along to the discussion group on the 18 October! Notes are below.
The next discussion group is on 15 November. Adam Bolte will be telling us about his explorations in running free software network services from home, including email, chat, microblogging, code hosting and media sharing. Ben Finney will be telling us how to avoid being tracked on the web.
On 20 December we're having an evening BBQ, probably on the banks of the Yarra. We realise that it's a busy time for many, so this will be very casual.
On 17 January we're holding a games night to follow-up from our highly successful event a little while back.
I'm really looking forward to the next few months!
Regards,
Ben
Notes from discussion group 18 October 2012 -------------------------------------------
- Ben demoed Media Goblin for hosting photos and videos and his use to host baby photos
- Discussed the Media Goblin crowd-funding campaign - goals to build federated replacement for YouTube/Flick etc. - choice to use FSF infrastructure rather than Kickstarter - experiences with crowd-funding, fund-raising and grants
- Ben's annual urge to free the E-tax income tax software - most present use an accountant - small number use E-tax or complete tax return on paper - standard free software approach of just rewriting? - could we do better than just clone E-tax? - our chances of connecting to ATO's network services to eg. submit return? - perhaps just printing return would be big step - contacting the ATO? it might save work for them - getting the API details under "freedom of information" - what is the future is for desktop E-tax? - ATO could well be building a web-app
- ABC iView - ABC's cease and desist on Jeremy Visser's python-iview
- Discussed upcoming meetings/events (see above) - December/January is busy but decided to hold events anyway
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Hi Kathy, I'm not across all the details, but here's the letter from Jeremy's website and an article from The Conversation. https://jeremy.visser.name/2009/08/python-iview/ http://theconversation.edu.au/python-iview-copyright-crusader-or-vigilante-o... Regards, Ben On 28/10/12 05:26, Kathy Reid wrote:
Sorry for replying to list on this - was skimming your notes Ben (great notes, thanks) and read about ABC cease and desist to Jeremy. Could someone fill me in on the details? It sounds really out of character for the ABC to do this. To formally issue a cease and desist they must be worried about something (?DRM?).
Kind regards, K.
On 27/10/12 03:24, Ben Sturmfels wrote:
Hi Folks,
Thanks for coming along to the discussion group on the 18 October! Notes are below.
The next discussion group is on 15 November. Adam Bolte will be telling us about his explorations in running free software network services from home, including email, chat, microblogging, code hosting and media sharing. Ben Finney will be telling us how to avoid being tracked on the web.
On 20 December we're having an evening BBQ, probably on the banks of the Yarra. We realise that it's a busy time for many, so this will be very casual.
On 17 January we're holding a games night to follow-up from our highly successful event a little while back.
I'm really looking forward to the next few months!
Regards,
Ben
Notes from discussion group 18 October 2012 -------------------------------------------
- Ben demoed Media Goblin for hosting photos and videos and his use to host baby photos
- Discussed the Media Goblin crowd-funding campaign - goals to build federated replacement for YouTube/Flick etc. - choice to use FSF infrastructure rather than Kickstarter - experiences with crowd-funding, fund-raising and grants
- Ben's annual urge to free the E-tax income tax software - most present use an accountant - small number use E-tax or complete tax return on paper - standard free software approach of just rewriting? - could we do better than just clone E-tax? - our chances of connecting to ATO's network services to eg. submit return? - perhaps just printing return would be big step - contacting the ATO? it might save work for them - getting the API details under "freedom of information" - what is the future is for desktop E-tax? - ATO could well be building a web-app
- ABC iView - ABC's cease and desist on Jeremy Visser's python-iview
- Discussed upcoming meetings/events (see above) - December/January is busy but decided to hold events anyway
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On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 5:26 AM, Kathy Reid
Sorry for replying to list on this - was skimming your notes Ben (great notes, thanks) and read about ABC cease and desist to Jeremy. Could someone fill me in on the details? It sounds really out of character for the ABC to do this. To formally issue a cease and desist they must be worried about something (?DRM?).
I'm sure that the ABC is compelled by its licensing deals (for example, it buys Doctor Who and many other shows from the BBC) to protect its content with DRM. Legally, I'd say their hands are tied. This puts us in a difficult situation. There is no one entity we can convince to "just give no-DRM a go" because it is not up to them. The best recourse, I think, is new organisations that start out with no-DRM as a mission, and actively go out and make licencing deals with no-DRM in the contract. GOG.com has made a successful business on this model for games, signing big brands including Activision and EA. I think it's harder for TV and movies, though.
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