Debate event: “Copyright Is Dead, Long Live The Pirates”
Howdy all, The Wheeler Centre is organising an IQ² Debate with a topic related to free culture, that of copyright and the misnomer “piracy” for copyright infringement. The digital revolution is counter-intuitive to copyright. Technological change is moving too fast for adequate laws to be implemented – and for affected industries to keep pace. With such open access to information these days, how do we know where one person’s work ends and another begins? Is the very idea of intellectual property becoming a nonsense – or is it too important to give up on, for the continuing functioning of the arts and the sciences? And – the million-dollar question – how can we ensure creativity continues to pay? Our speakers will consider the obstacles and opportunities ahead. <URL:http://wheelercentre.com/events/event/copyright-is-dead-long-live-the-pirates/> -- \ “He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his | `\ enemy from oppression.” —Thomas Paine | _o__) | Ben Finney
Thanks Ben - looks like the speakers they've got lined up might manage a reasonably interesting debate. I've just booked to go along. Sounds like you should start an Aus pirate party Ben if you're going to use the scare quotes around all possible uses of the word ;) cheers, Pat S. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Ben Finney <ben+freesoftware@benfinney.id.au
wrote:
Howdy all,
The Wheeler Centre is organising an IQ² Debate with a topic related to free culture, that of copyright and the misnomer “piracy” for copyright infringement.
The digital revolution is counter-intuitive to copyright. Technological change is moving too fast for adequate laws to be implemented – and for affected industries to keep pace.
With such open access to information these days, how do we know where one person’s work ends and another begins? Is the very idea of intellectual property becoming a nonsense – or is it too important to give up on, for the continuing functioning of the arts and the sciences? And – the million-dollar question – how can we ensure creativity continues to pay?
Our speakers will consider the obstacles and opportunities ahead.
<URL: http://wheelercentre.com/events/event/copyright-is-dead-long-live-the-pirate...
-- \ “He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his | `\ enemy from oppression.” —Thomas Paine | _o__) | Ben Finney
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Not sure if its coincidence, but just noting that this is a few days after Software Freedom Day on 21 September. Daniel. On Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:39:32 +1000 Patrick Sunter <patdevelop@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Ben - looks like the speakers they've got lined up might manage a reasonably interesting debate. I've just booked to go along.
Sounds like you should start an Aus pirate party Ben if you're going to use the scare quotes around all possible uses of the word ;)
cheers, Pat S.
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Ben Finney <ben+freesoftware@benfinney.id.au
wrote:
Howdy all,
The Wheeler Centre is organising an IQ² Debate with a topic related to free culture, that of copyright and the misnomer “piracy” for copyright infringement.
The digital revolution is counter-intuitive to copyright. Technological change is moving too fast for adequate laws to be implemented – and for affected industries to keep pace.
With such open access to information these days, how do we know where one person’s work ends and another begins? Is the very idea of intellectual property becoming a nonsense – or is it too important to give up on, for the continuing functioning of the arts and the sciences? And – the million-dollar question – how can we ensure creativity continues to pay?
Our speakers will consider the obstacles and opportunities ahead.
<URL: http://wheelercentre.com/events/event/copyright-is-dead-long-live-the-pirate...
-- \ “He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his | `\ enemy from oppression.” —Thomas Paine | _o__) | Ben Finney
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On 08/08/2013 2:39 PM, "Patrick Sunter" <patdevelop@gmail.com> wrote:
Sounds like you should start an Aus pirate party Ben if you're going to
use
the scare quotes around all possible uses of the word ;)
cheers, Pat S.
Which "word" is that? Hmmm. I'm not sure if that worked as intended. Oh well. George
Sounds like you should start an Aus pirate party Ben if you're going to use the scare quotes around all possible uses of the word ;)
There already is one: pirateparty.org.au D.
cheers, Pat S.
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Ben Finney <ben+freesoftware@benfinney.id.au
wrote:
Howdy all,
The Wheeler Centre is organising an IQ² Debate with a topic related to free culture, that of copyright and the misnomer “piracy” for copyright infringement.
The digital revolution is counter-intuitive to copyright. Technological change is moving too fast for adequate laws to be implemented – and for affected industries to keep pace.
With such open access to information these days, how do we know where one person’s work ends and another begins? Is the very idea of intellectual property becoming a nonsense – or is it too important to give up on, for the continuing functioning of the arts and the sciences? And – the million-dollar question – how can we ensure creativity continues to pay?
Our speakers will consider the obstacles and opportunities ahead.
<URL: http://wheelercentre.com/events/event/copyright-is-dead-long-live-the-pirate...
-- \ “He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his | `\ enemy from oppression.” —Thomas Paine | _o__) | Ben Finney
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Patrick Sunter <patdevelop@gmail.com> writes:
Sounds like you should start an Aus pirate party Ben if you're going to use the scare quotes around all possible uses of the word ;)
As already noted, there is a Pirate Party Australia <URL:http://pirateparty.org.au/>. We are looking forward to a visit from a representative of the party, Ben McGinnes, at our next Free Software Melbourne meeting 2013-08-18. But it's a mistake to think I'd use scare quotes around all possible uses of the word “pirate”. That word is entirely appropriate for some uses. I would describe violently attacking a vessel, kidnapping or killing those aboard and depriving them of what the vessel carried, as piracy. Real pirates exist today, their actions are physically harmful to their victims and damaging to society, and it is right to criminalise their actions and seek to restrain them. We correctly feel moral outrage at (non-fictional, especially modern-day) pirates. Copyright infringement is not an attack, is not violent, does no harm to the physical safety of anyone, and deprives no-one of any goods. To call that “piracy” is a canard. It plays directly into the hands of “intellectual property” maximalists who seek public moral outrage against, and extreme criminalisation of, the sharing of information. <URL:https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Piracy> Sharing information – whether with the consent of the copyright holder or otherwise, even if it might be considered morally wrong – is never theft and is never a violent act. So it's at best confusing, and at worst deliberately misleading, to use the term “piracy” for that. So no, I won't be starting or joining a Pirate Party. I do support the general aims of civil liberty, free culture, government transparency, etc. that the Pirate Party Australia espouse; but I don't think it helps these aims to use a term that already – and rightly – denotes a violent society-harming property thief for someone with those aims. It further entrenches and empowers that canard. I look forward to meeting members of the Pirate Party Australia again when they visit our next Free Software Melbourne meeting! We have many goals in common and a lot to discuss, I'm sure. -- \ “Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists in | `\ choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable.” —John | _o__) Kenneth Galbraith, 1962-03-02 | Ben Finney
Hi guys, I bought a ticket for this event, which is tomorrow nite: but now do tutoring on a Tuesday night so can't attend. Anyone interested in attending using my ticket - free? If so, reply to this msg and I'll send you the PDF - "first in, best dressed" as they say. cheers, Patrick. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Ben Finney <ben+freesoftware@benfinney.id.au
wrote:
Howdy all,
The Wheeler Centre is organising an IQ² Debate with a topic related to free culture, that of copyright and the misnomer “piracy” for copyright infringement.
The digital revolution is counter-intuitive to copyright. Technological change is moving too fast for adequate laws to be implemented – and for affected industries to keep pace.
With such open access to information these days, how do we know where one person’s work ends and another begins? Is the very idea of intellectual property becoming a nonsense – or is it too important to give up on, for the continuing functioning of the arts and the sciences? And – the million-dollar question – how can we ensure creativity continues to pay?
Our speakers will consider the obstacles and opportunities ahead.
<URL: http://wheelercentre.com/events/event/copyright-is-dead-long-live-the-pirate...
-- \ “He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his | `\ enemy from oppression.” —Thomas Paine | _o__) | Ben Finney
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participants (4)
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Ben Finney -
danyj028＠gmail.com -
George Patterson -
Patrick Sunter