Choice to inform public about graduated response policy.
It's not quite the TPP/FTA scale, but it's the internet, it's piracy, it's the vibe. Surprised to see Choice getting involved. -------- Original (cruft removed) Message -------- Yesterday, reports that the federal government is looking at so-called graduated response policies were confirmed. These policies will make the internet slower and more expensive, and there's no evidence that they will have any impact on the problem they are trying to address, internet piracy. Rather than increasing access to content, the government wants to penalise all consumers in order to protect the profits of American copyright holders. http://click.email.choice.com.au/?qs=b85453dd728ea6866654e252fc8c17cfd243524... Help CHOICE fund an ad to run in the national media that tells the government not to force costly policies onto consumers and ISPs without addressing the root causes of internet piracy. http://click.email.choice.com.au/?qs=b85453dd728ea6866654e252fc8c17cfd243524... Donate now! The government has never asked consumers what they think of these laws. It's time we tell them. So much is being considered in secret. Here's what we know: - The Attorney-General's Department has confirmed that it is considering establishing a graduated response scheme as one possible anti-piracy policy in Australia. - These policies will make internet access more expensive for all users - not just people illegally downloading content. - These policies will make the internet slower for everyone because your ISP (internet service provider) has to enforce clunky regulations. - These policies won't stop piracy. The most effective measure to stop piracy is giving consumers timely and affordable access to the content they want.By http://click.email.choice.com.au/?qs=b85453dd728ea6866654e252fc8c17cfd243524... donating just $10 , you will help us place an ad in the national media to tell the government that this is a #piracyfail. Best wishes, Angela Cartwright Campaigns Manager P.S For more information http://click.email.choice.com.au/?qs=b85453dd728ea686b0c67ccbba7dbe9389dc3f6... check out the CHOICE website .
I've donated some money to this campaign. It's strange: I thought the liberals would have backed off of this in the light of the budget response. But no, it appears that its full steam ahead on this issue as well :( Martin On 30 May 2014 16:42, Ben M <PuZZleDucK+softwarefreedom@gmail.com> wrote:
It's not quite the TPP/FTA scale, but it's the internet, it's piracy, it's the vibe. Surprised to see Choice getting involved.
-------- Original (cruft removed) Message -------- Yesterday, reports that the federal government is looking at so-called graduated response policies were confirmed. These policies will make the internet slower and more expensive, and there's no evidence that they will have any impact on the problem they are trying to address, internet piracy.
Rather than increasing access to content, the government wants to penalise all consumers in order to protect the profits of American copyright holders.
http://click.email.choice.com.au/?qs=b85453dd728ea6866654e252fc8c17cfd243524... Help CHOICE fund an ad to run in the national media that tells the government not to force costly policies onto consumers and ISPs without addressing the root causes of internet piracy.
http://click.email.choice.com.au/?qs=b85453dd728ea6866654e252fc8c17cfd243524... Donate now!
The government has never asked consumers what they think of these laws. It's time we tell them.
So much is being considered in secret. Here's what we know:
- The Attorney-General's Department has confirmed that it is considering establishing a graduated response scheme as one possible anti-piracy policy in Australia. - These policies will make internet access more expensive for all users - not just people illegally downloading content. - These policies will make the internet slower for everyone because your ISP (internet service provider) has to enforce clunky regulations. - These policies won't stop piracy. The most effective measure to stop piracy is giving consumers timely and affordable access to the content they want.By http://click.email.choice.com.au/?qs=b85453dd728ea6866654e252fc8c17cfd243524... donating just $10 , you will help us place an ad in the national media to tell the government that this is a #piracyfail.
Best wishes, Angela Cartwright Campaigns Manager
P.S For more information http://click.email.choice.com.au/?qs=b85453dd728ea686b0c67ccbba7dbe9389dc3f6... check out the CHOICE website . _______________________________________________ Free-software-melb mailing list Free-software-melb@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-software-m...
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On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 16:42 +1000, Ben M wrote:
It's not quite the TPP/FTA scale, but it's the internet, it's piracy, it's the vibe. Surprised to see Choice getting involved.
A possible explanation: http://torrentfreak.com/aussie-attorney-general-pressured-on-three-strikes-s... Ludlam then asked if consumer groups were being involved in the process, as is the case in the United States “strikes” system. “Have you spoken to any consumer groups, such as Choice or ACANN, who would probably contest your view that a graduated response or three-strikes or any of those kinds of propositions…..” A clearly irritated Brandis interrupted, but Ludlam wasn’t giving an inch, continuing:
-------- Original (cruft removed) Message -------- Yesterday, reports that the federal government is looking at so-called graduated response policies were confirmed. These policies will make the internet slower and more expensive, and there's no evidence that they will have any impact on the problem they are trying to address, internet piracy.
Rather than increasing access to content, the government wants to penalise all consumers in order to protect the profits of American copyright holders.
http://click.email.choice.com.au/?qs=b85453dd728ea6866654e252fc8c17cfd243524... Help CHOICE fund an ad to run in the national media that tells the government not to force costly policies onto consumers and ISPs without addressing the root causes of internet piracy.
http://click.email.choice.com.au/?qs=b85453dd728ea6866654e252fc8c17cfd243524... Donate now!
The government has never asked consumers what they think of these laws. It's time we tell them.
So much is being considered in secret. Here's what we know:
- The Attorney-General's Department has confirmed that it is considering establishing a graduated response scheme as one possible anti-piracy policy in Australia. - These policies will make internet access more expensive for all users - not just people illegally downloading content. - These policies will make the internet slower for everyone because your ISP (internet service provider) has to enforce clunky regulations. - These policies won't stop piracy. The most effective measure to stop piracy is giving consumers timely and affordable access to the content they want.By http://click.email.choice.com.au/?qs=b85453dd728ea6866654e252fc8c17cfd243524... donating just $10 , you will help us place an ad in the national media to tell the government that this is a #piracyfail.
Best wishes, Angela Cartwright Campaigns Manager
P.S For more information http://click.email.choice.com.au/?qs=b85453dd728ea686b0c67ccbba7dbe9389dc3f6... check out the CHOICE website . _______________________________________________ Free-software-melb mailing list Free-software-melb@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-software-m...
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On Sat, 31 May 2014, Adrian Colomitchi <acolomitchi@gmail.com> wrote:
A possible explanation: http://torrentfreak.com/aussie-attorney-general-pressured-on-three-strikes- secrecy-140529/
That's yet another good reason to avoid Telstra (the price and quality of service being other reasons). -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/
News article might be old, but I didn't know about this: http://www.bitdefender.com.au/security/more-information-about-australias-coo... On 31/05/14 15:05, Russell Coker wrote:
On Sat, 31 May 2014, Adrian Colomitchi <acolomitchi@gmail.com> wrote:
A possible explanation: http://torrentfreak.com/aussie-attorney-general-pressured-on-three-strikes- secrecy-140529/
That's yet another good reason to avoid Telstra (the price and quality of service being other reasons).
On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 16:42 +1000, Ben M wrote:
It's not quite the TPP/FTA scale, but it's the internet, it's piracy, it's the vibe.
Thanks for the link (I've just donated the equiv of 1 week worth of my ciggie ration - I'm a heavy smoker - and had the pleasure to see my contribution driving the amount collected over the target). In regards with "the vibe", I feel you limit it to a too small range. ZDNet carried an article last week, which sets the things into an interesting perspective : http://www.zdnet.com/au/australian-government-considers-graduated-response-to-piracy-7000029968/?s_cid=e554&ttag=e554&ftag=TRE4d0d0ca The government this year cut AU$38 million from Screen Australia over the next four years in this year's budget, a move that will see the organisation support the creation of fewer Australian films and TV shows. ... Although Brandis still favours a voluntary industry-led system, he said that there had been little interest from most ISPs since the iiNet High Court case to come to the table on negotiations. "A lot of the pressure on the ISPs to come to the table went away because the ISPs had a very comprehensive victory in the iiNet case," he said. [I personally feel the liberals are very much about "socializing the cost" in their last budget - my personal opinion, feel free to disagree] Scrolling down to the comments section : Look, if somebody pirates movies and shows when LEGAL, REASONABLY PRICES and DRM free options exist, ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE. By all means work on some sort of punishment system. But targeting these people and putting resources into this AS THING ARE is disgusting. Give us a fair Australia with media delivered reliably by anyone wishing to do so, not just the Telstra/Foxtel juggernaut so that we may purchase our media legally and at competitive prices (you need competition to get competitive prices). Wake up idiots! Who voted these guys in? :) [I can understand this guy, even if for me "media/entertainment" is no longer an addiction to a "daily dose" but ended in the position "Spend $10 for 4 times a year on DVD rental for a crappy-movie-weekend-marathon" - yes, I'm not quite the soul of party either] Just exactly what are you doing to ensure Australians have the infrastructure to access the legal content in the format supplied by the owners? The answer Mr Brandis is nothing. What are you doing to protect the questionable rights of a collection of American conglomerates. That is right bending over backwards. Where is the parallel import rules? Why are your guaranteeing rights holder can grant rights on a geographical basis in an non geographical environment. The problem is not those busy with civil disobedience, it is the idiots that are supporting a broken right system. [interesting. Piracy practised as civil disobedience. My cynical attitude of a grumpy old man doesn't allow me to hope for it, but I'd like an officially organized campaign for such, I'd be in] If my Monthly ISP fees go up ... to pay for what is obviously a flaw in the content industries business model, that they don't want to pay to fix, and that they expect third parties to fix for them - then I will consider this yet another 'great new tax' from the Australian government, and further proof that the government doesn't represent my interests, it only represents the interests of big corporate sponsors. [be pirate or not, this guy does have a point. Pretty much as any DRM, the "policing by ISP" required by a 3strikes-law will punish the innocents more than the guilty] Adrian
Surprised to see Choice getting involved.
-------- Original (cruft removed) Message -------- Yesterday, reports that the federal government is looking at so-called graduated response policies were confirmed. These policies will make the internet slower and more expensive, and there's no evidence that they will have any impact on the problem they are trying to address, internet piracy.
Rather than increasing access to content, the government wants to penalise all consumers in order to protect the profits of American copyright holders.
http://click.email.choice.com.au/?qs=b85453dd728ea6866654e252fc8c17cfd243524... Help CHOICE fund an ad to run in the national media that tells the government not to force costly policies onto consumers and ISPs without addressing the root causes of internet piracy.
http://click.email.choice.com.au/?qs=b85453dd728ea6866654e252fc8c17cfd243524... Donate now!
The government has never asked consumers what they think of these laws. It's time we tell them.
So much is being considered in secret. Here's what we know:
- The Attorney-General's Department has confirmed that it is considering establishing a graduated response scheme as one possible anti-piracy policy in Australia. - These policies will make internet access more expensive for all users - not just people illegally downloading content. - These policies will make the internet slower for everyone because your ISP (internet service provider) has to enforce clunky regulations. - These policies won't stop piracy. The most effective measure to stop piracy is giving consumers timely and affordable access to the content they want.By http://click.email.choice.com.au/?qs=b85453dd728ea6866654e252fc8c17cfd243524... donating just $10 , you will help us place an ad in the national media to tell the government that this is a #piracyfail.
Best wishes, Angela Cartwright Campaigns Manager
P.S For more information http://click.email.choice.com.au/?qs=b85453dd728ea686b0c67ccbba7dbe9389dc3f6... check out the CHOICE website . _______________________________________________ Free-software-melb mailing list Free-software-melb@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/free-software-m...
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